

The Descendents are a band that I thought I’d never get a chance to see live, let alone get the chance to interview them. When I heard they were getting back together with Milo and recording new material I was more than excited. “Everything Sucks” comes out and they tour extensively on the record which lands them in Lawrence at Liberty Hall where Fungus Boy caught up with them. NOVEMBER 22,1996.
Fungus Boy: I’m sure a majority
of these questions you’ve probably been asked like 200 times by now, but
for our sake just pretend like you’ve never been asked them.
Milo: All right, we’ll respond in Swahili just to make it kind of different
and unique.
FB: I’m sure everyone who's reading this wants to know how, when,
and why the Descendents got back together?
Milo: OK well, it’s weird ‘cause we don’t really refer it
as a getting back together or reunion of sorts because these guys have—All’s
been playing all along. So, basically they’ve been doing their thing for
the past nine years and I’ve been doing my science deal. But I’ve
kept in contact with them over the years. In a really kind of informal sense
like I used to sing back up on all the records and I’d jump un on stage
and sing with them once in a while. So basically what happened in specifics
is just that in January I started writing music again and I got really into
it, I was really excited to do it again. So Bill and I struck up a collaboration
at that point and just took it from there and started recording in like June,
and just uh, plowed through a bunch of material. These guys had already written,
they’d already written about twenty some odd songs and I had about nine
of my own songs that I contributed, and just put it all together and recorded
the best sixteen.
FB: I’m sure most people probably thought that you didn’t
have any involvement with music for a while but we have a copy of the Milestone
CD that you sang on.
Milo: Right, yeah. That was just, I just did it for like a year and a half,
1989-1990. It was just a something I was doing as a hobby basically when I was
in graduate school. That CD, it was almost like I didn’t really want that
really to see the light of day. It was more like, it was a live performance,
we never went into the studio to make it. So for better or worse it’s
out there. I don’t like to even speak of it in the same breath as the
Descendents really. (laughter)
FB2: What do you think about the influence the Descendents have on a
lot of the bands today?
Milo: Well I’ve been having fun just listening to a lot of the current
bands, and you know? I’m a fan of that kind of music any way, so I can
hear our influence in certain bands but I like the bands that I’m hearing
anyways. I’m flattered by it. As long as they’re not directly like
ripping us off, like a complete rip off or any thing, which I don’t hear.
Bands have influences just like we had our influences and its kinda what makes
rock & roll kinda progress, you take a series of influences and then you
kind of make something novel out of it. So I don’t really have a problem
with it, I just find it kind of flattering.
FB: A lot of people consider you guys to be the pioneers of the pop
punk sound, do you see it that way?
Milo: I just see it as we were just making music, it just happened to be music
that I think a lot of people really grabbed on to. Definitely we some kind of
influence. I wouldn’t say that we pioneered, or invented or any thing
like that.
Karl: There was bands like the Fly Boys that had a row of fans. A lot of people
had experimented with the possibilities, maybe people liked the style with which
it was presented, or the anti-style with which it was presented. (laughs)
Milo: I definitely think we could say that we contributed but its not like we
were the originators.

FB: Were there any fears at all
that when you got back together that the chemistry wouldn’t be right?
Milo: Well I think because my history with them over the past eight years has
been relatively close—you know Bill’s been my best friend since
high school. Bill and I went to high school together, so for me at least I felt
a very natural kind of assimilation when I got to do it. We walked into the
practice room the very first day and it was like, “OK, ready to go”,
and it was a very kind of natural thing. I had no problems with it. Chemistry
wise was not an issue with me. For me it was more like, “OK can I even
like do it?”, ‘cause I hadn’t really performed and stuff like
that for a while. You know I think having these guys be very supportive of the
whole thing and just having a tremendous amount of enthusiasm surrounding it
made it a lot easier for me just to kind of get over it as an issue.
FB: (To Karl) What about you?
Karl: I don’t know, it was just another day at work for me. You know it’s
cool. We’ve been through quite a few singers over the years so its a lot
easier to get back with one that you know how they do it, than it is trying
to introduce someone.
FB: Each time I saw All it was with a different singer. I saw the very
first tour actually.
Karl: With uh Dave Smalley. That was Doughboys and us at the Outhouse.
FB: Yeah, that was a good show. The Descendents played the Outhouse.
I was talking to a guy who frequented that place and he said you played there
quite a bit, like about three times?
Karl: Uh hum.
Milo: That was the place to play when you were in Lawrence, Kansas.
FB2: Was your recording process the same for this album as the earlier
ones?
Milo: No, for me it was a lot different. For these guys it was very much the
same. Compared to things like “Breaking Things” and “Pummel”,
so it was probably very similar to them but for me it was a lot different. And
that’s because these guys have their own studio out in Fort Collins, Colorado.
And that just provides them with a lot of—what does it provide you with?
I don’t know.
Karl: Experience. You learn how to best record things and we’re able to
help out a lot of friends of ours bands. Like giving them some ears that understand
what they’re trying to do. It’s called The Blasting Room, we’ve
done a lot of different stuff there.
FB: Yeah, I have a CD by Alligator Gun that was done there.
Karl: That, we’ve done Hagfish, who else?
Milo: Oh, Pollen.
Karl: Pollen, Shades Apart, all kinds of stuff.
FB: So why did you guys (ALL) decide to get out of Missouri? Nothing
happening there?
Karl: It was kinda we wanted to start a studio but we knew that if we wanted
to be doing our friends bands it probably wouldn’t be a good idea to have
it be Brookfield, Missouri. There’s pretty much nothing for them to do
there outside of recording. We thought West was a good idea to move and I was
born in Colorado. I have a lot of family there and we’ve played Fort Collins
quite a bit and liked it. So that’s kind of why.
FB: What compelled you to move to Missouri in the first place? Were
you fed up with California?
Karl: No, it was more of a financial decision. It was just really expensive
to keep a place together in L.A. while we were out on tour ten months out of
the year. So we moved to Missouri where we could pay very, very little rent
and have a fairly nice place to live.
Milo: What were you guys paying? That was like a five bedroom house and you’re
paying like...
Karl: Three hundred fifty a month. And it was so much cheaper that it was really
smart. A smart thing to do.
FB: Did you guys ever see the band as something bigger than you thought
it was? People are always using Black Flag, Circle Jerks, and Descendents all
in the same sentence.
Milo: Not at the time. Definitely not back in the early eighties. Because we
were a pretty tiny band, we’d play these shows to twenty people. That
was like, I can remember literally dozens of shows where we be playing to twenty
people or whatever. In the mid eighties when you’re surrounded in the
musical sphere with popular bands at the time like Poison, or you know Tears
For Fears or what ever, that doesn’t allow you to kind of have any perspective
of are you making your mark or anything. We just played, we just played and
toured and tried to kind of progress as musicians. I never felt that there was
any kind of mark that we were making. (laughter)
Karl: No, no you don’t feel that because in the world of punk rock the
thing where you influence your friends is really obvious no matter what. No
matter who it is, you know. You know you go out and see five friends’
bands and you pick up something from all of them. As far as being like in the
same breath with the Circle Jerks and Black Flag maybe it has to do with the
quality of records that were put out. The records clearly were the best rock
& roll of that time. You’ve gotta remember that stuff was happening
before speed metal, and that stuff was happening before heavy metal acknowledge
the heavy part of it. So that was definitely some of the best records of the
early eighties, were rock & roll music. Maybe that’s why people mention
them in the same breath. I’m saying this as an outsider, I was not on
the “Milo Goes To College” record, I’m saying it as some one
who bought the record and had his ass blown off when it came out. So I think
the reason people remember those bands is because they rocked.
FB: After the fact did you see the impact that you had on people and
the music community?
Milo: For me it was probably over the last three or four years where I’ve
actually kind of pulled my head back out of the sand and actually kind of started
trying to interact with people outside of my very limited sphere, which is like
science nerd guy or whatever. Via e-mail and communicating with people via e-mail
I’ve become aware of it, and it was definitely a surprise to me. I just
thought, “OK, what’s going on here?” But I think just by listening
to the current music out there, just listening now alone would probably be enough
evidence that we left some kind of mark ‘cause theres definitely lots
of influences out there—err, we had a lot of influence on them.
Karl: Well said.
FB2: Would you say “I’m Not A Loser” was the perfect
anthem for the ‘80s?
Milo: It’s still a perfect anthem.
Karl: It’s anthem for human life on planet Earth, let’s get real.
I mean, you know people, we’re real conscious in this culture of dating
stuff decade by decade. I don’t get that. Like if something is a great
piece of art or music it doesn’t fucking matter if it’s addressing
something thats humanly true, it’s gonna hit you no matter what.
Milo: Especially a song like “I’m Not A Loser” where you’re,
I mean that’s a specific subject matter of like high school, fucking jocks
in your high school or whatever. Or just the fucking cool guys, the guys that
think they’re cool.
Karl: Or your boss at work or what ever.
Milo: Yeah, thats a universal, thats like all eternity you’re gonna have
to deal with those kind of bozos. I imagine I could just walk in to any given
high school any where and just find the same clique-y little deals. I think
it pretty much still applies.
FB: Yeah that’s why punk rock was so appealing to all those kids.
Karl: But now it’s got it’s own cool, so where does that leave them?
Milo: Yeah, I know. Isn’t that weird?
Karl: It’s got it’s cool.
FB: Six years ago you’d see a kid with a mowhawk and know where
they were coming from, and now you’re not sure.
Milo: Right.
Karl: Plus back when I was getting into punk rock music people thought you were
a complete and total loser to begin with thought you were even more of a loser
if you were into that music. That was the thing, it was like putting yourself
beneath the underdog pretty far.
FB: How did you end up on Epitaph? Did Greg Ginn attempt to sign you
back to SST when he found out you were playing again?
Karl: No what happened was we (ALL) were on Interscope Records and then we got
off Interscope Records and it happened so simultaneously with Milo talking to
us about doing a Descendents thing and Brett was the first person we talked
to about finding any new label and it just felt like a good thing to go with
him. He obviously knows what to do as far as putting records out obviously,
and plus he is one of us. He lived in the vans, and played music when no one
wanted it.
Milo: That entire label is kind of like one of us in a sense because they’re
all basically fans of punk rock, they’re just enthusiasts. We played this
series of shows out in L.A. and most of them were at the shows like slamming
in the pit and stuff.
Karl: You’re not gonna get that at Interscope Records. They’re nice
guys but you’re not gonna see the guys at the top there in the pit, it’s
just not gonna happen.
FB: One time I got a press release for a CD on a major label and it
said something like, “Rock out in your cubicle”. I thought that
was funny as hell. You picture all these people sitting in cubicles typing reviews.
Milo: I don’t know, maybe thats a reflection of more people are working
those weird cubicle jobs. (laughter) You know those human hive jobs. God I’d
never want to work in one of those.
Milo: A cubicle job?
Karl: A little cubicle job. Like I got family members that do that and don’t
mind.
Milo: It’s like Brazil or something. You’ve seen Brazil haven’t
you?
Karl: That movie called it. Do you guys know this film? Brazil.
FB: Yeah, I’ve seen it.
Karl: Like I saw that thing when it came out and I said, “In ten years
people will realize what this film’s talking about”, and ten years
down the line, yeah it’s all there. It’s like Devo, you know Devo
were right. They were ahead of their time, they were right.
FB: Most people probably think that “Milo Goes To College”
was like one of the final Descendents albums. But that was right at a point
where you guys actually kind of broke up for a little bit right?
Milo: Yeah, I mean it was one of the many hiatuses ‘cause I just ended
up quitting the band all the time ‘cause I’m a puss. So I’d
quit and I’d go to school and do this whole academic thing. But yeah,
that was one of those periods where I had left the band and Bill went to go
play with Black Flag and you know. I guess you could say we were broken up but
in retrospect it was more of just kind of a hiatus. It was basically about two
years that we basically didn’t play out or anything, or didn’t record
or anything. So that was the first of many times where I just went AWOL and
took off, just because I’m a quitter.
FB: He’s gonna quit tonight on stage, half way through a song.
Milo: Yeah, I could quit.
Karl: He can’t decide whether the microscope or the microphone had more
appeal to him, he’s bobbing between the two.
Milo: But you know sometimes that microphone is kinda like a microscope because
there’s all these little microbes on it. I can study those.
Karl: Maybe you should bring a microscope on stage with you.
Milo: Yeah and look at the microphone.
Karl: Or make some culutres during the set during an instrumental. Get them
both in, you know like Bill Nye The Science Guy. You gottta go do experiments.
Milo: That’s a good idea. That’s what I should be doing in between
songs. I should bring like my scientific articles on stage and read excerpts
from them.
Karl: Sure. Something like that. Are you published?
Milo: Yeah.
Karl: Oh you’re published. See he gave up a promising academic career
to sing punk rock.
Milo: Well see I have nine scientific publications and, no wait, how’s
it work? I have ten scientific publications and we only made nine records, so
I kind of like feel obliged to make another record.
FB: There’s your next liner notes.
Karl: Make one into a song.
Milo: Yeah you know that hasn’t worked out that well, talking about D.N.A.
(singing) “D.N.A. it’s really cool!”. You know Bad Religion
had that song “Entropy”, “Its matter of course”, that
was the line ever.
Karl: It’s a physical truth as far as we know it.
FB: What was the reason you released two live albums in the same year?
I heard that “Liveage” was like more of your “greatest hits”?
Milo: Well I think, yeah, the first one that came out was you know supposedly
the kind of like the “classics”, or whatever. But even so we would
get people writing us after “Liveage” came out saying, “Hey,
well what about ‘Christmas Vacation’, what about this song? What
about that song?”, so I think we just felt obliged at that point to out
like another one just from all the kind of responses.
Karl: Plus we had recorded—didn’t we record that Berkeley stuff
before we did the Minneapolis stuff?
Milo: Yeah, yeah so actually...
Karl: But then “Hallraker” was recorded before...
Milo: No, but I think it’s all interspersed.
Karl: It is interspersed on “Hallraker” but a lot of that stuff
was recorded before the stuff for “Liveage”. I think we just went
back and listened to it and thought it sounded kinda cool too.
Milo: OK.
Karl: Also there’s a thing where like I think a live record is a thing
of beauty because there’s no lying, a studio being what it is it’s
very possible to cheat. The highest compliment I’ve had since we started
doing this thing again was someone went up to me and said, “You know,
I used to think you guys really, really, over mixed your albums, but you guys
just sound like that.”, and I’m just sittin’ there going,
“Yeah, yeah. That’s kinda cool”.
Milo: So they didn’t know how many overdubs we did for that live record?
Karl: No. (laughter)
FB2: We think “Liveage” is the best album.
Milo: Oh, really?
Karl: I like “Hallraker” just because it has some of the more hateful
songs on it. It’s not the pop hits, I mean it’s got the hate hits.
Milo: That’s why it’s called “Hallraker”.
Karl: Yeah, you’ve got to understand that even if you’re not into
that stuff we are, ‘cause it’s fun. We play the pop songs, the super
melodic stuff, you’ve got to have something to counter.
FB: The design of your new album looks a lot like the older ones. Was
it a conscious effort to make it look the same as the others?
Milo: Well I mean I think, we always have stuck with, at least the Descendents
have always stuck with very, very simple art. And whether or not we put the
caricature on the cover or not that’s beside the point, but it’s
always been about very simple art. I think that in that sense it’s just
a continuum. As far as putting the character on there we just—that was
more of a brainstorm, “OK, what can we put on the cover?”. I think
there was definitely a conscious effort to keep the art simple, that’s
a definite aesthetic.
Karl: Also that Milo cartoon is one of the most instantly identifiable things
of the Descendents. And we thought well if it’s gonna be a bonafide Descendents
album lets let it all hang out, this is it.
FB2: Do you play many old songs live?
Milo: Yeah we mix all it up. We play an old—we kinda just play what we
wanna play, and that includes some All stuff that we play as well. It’s
kind of what ever song’s our favorites.
FB: I’d imagine you’ve started work on a bunch of new songs
already?
Milo: I think it’s a continuous process of writing. I’ve written
new songs, I’m sure everyone else in the bands written new songs. I mean
as far as working those new songs in the set, we haven’t been able to
as much of that probably because I live...
Karl: We have a lot of songs going on all the time because with our group of
people. There’s four of us obviously, but our roadie Bug has helped us
write stuff, Chad who sings for All has stuff going on, and all of our affiliated
friends. There’s never a shortage of songs.
FB: So how many of you live in Colorado?
Karl: Three. Me, Bill, and Stephen live out in Fort Collins.
Milo: I live in Wisconsin.
FB: So how are you guys gonna pull this off, both bands going at the
same time?
Karl: Like you guys are doing this interview, probably tag team. You know we’ll
do this as Descendents, then we’ll do an album as All and a tour as All,
and so on.
FB: So will you guys ever have time to rest now?
Milo: They don’t need rest.
Karl: I don’t know man, it’s like you know if you’re a plumber
or something a day you don’t go into work is a day you don’t get
paid or don’t get to do your thing. We like to play, thats what were gonna
be doing. It’s not the off time is the hard time, thats when your brain
feeds on itself and you just go nuts, playing’s fun.
Milo: Part of why we’re doing the All thing and the Descendents thing
and kinda alternate is it seems to accommodate everybody. For example me, I
like, I’m still gonna be involved in science in the future, this next
year I’m gonna be focusing on music but after that I’d like to do
more science. So when I go back and do more science then the whole thing works
out, like they can go be All. And I can go back and do science and the two bands
can kind of co-exist.
Karl: It’s kinda like if you read comic books, you know. There’s
the Avengers and sometimes they have Thor and sometimes they don’t, it’s
kinda like that.
FB: Did you have any All fans that were afraid that All was no longer
going to be around?
Karl: Yeah, yeah. We’ve had a few pretty rude letters about it, “How
could you disband”. Well no, we didn’t brake up. Me, Billy, and
Stephen have been full timers for ever in this thing. We like it obviously or
we would’ve quit years ago. We want to keep doing whatever.
FB2: So at the All shows will you still play Descendents songs?
Karl: Yeah probably. Yeah we don’t have any problem with that, we played
‘em all, we wrote most of ‘em, yeah what the hell. (laughter)
FB2: Yeah that was the main reason I went to see you guys, All, was
to hear the Descendents songs.
Karl: Sure. I think it’s kinda fun like because we do play All songs in
the Descendents set too and I think its fun hearing different singers have different
handles on different songs. Like in the back of my mind with some songs I’ve
always wondered how say Milo would sound on “Fool”. I always wondered
about that, I thought it was an interesting song. Not that Scott didn’t
do a good job, it’s just a curiosity, and there’s some songs that
Chad does with us, some Descendents songs, where I’m really impressed
by what he does with that song. He is rad. It’s kinda great, mix and match.
FB: Do you think that if you guys wouldn’t have started All that
you’d be in a situation now where you’d have the Descendents back
all this time later?
Karl: I don’t even think it was even a possibility. For real me, and Billy,
and Stephen really all we want to do is play music and write songs and stuff
like that. That’s all we want to do, that’s all we’ve ever
wanted to do. And all the stuff that surrounds it doesn’t really even
matter because we’d be doing this no matter what. In a way it sucks, we’re
pretty obsessive about it.
Milo: Let’s just say for the sake of argument that just for whatever freak
accident or whatever, in other words that All did not play through this period,
I don’t think the Descendents would be here (today).
Karl: No.
Milo: It just wouldn’t be because, you know I’m continually thinking
about those twenty people that were at my show back in 1985, and I’m thinking,
“Well how did twenty people become eight hundred people?”. And you
could say that it was partly because of you know, whatever the kind of modern
rock current trend or whatever. But I think a large part of it is the fact that
these guys built a huge fan base over the past eight or nine years and a lot
of those people are going back and discovering the Descendents.
Karl: Yeah, you’re probably right about that. Plus like I think the hardest
thing in the world to negotiate as far as like a band reunion per se, is trying
to get people who’ve been living apart for ten years or more back into
a cohesive rock unit. Something that sounds, has even close to the kind of passion
and intensity they might’ve had in the first place. That’s almost
an impossible feat to do, when you think about it. At least the three instrumentalists
have been working the whole time. I think actually a lot of these songs would
be physically impossible for us to play if we hadn’t been doing it the
whole time.
Milo: Kept your chops up.
Karl: Not even chops, like muscle power. Like stamina and muscle power and shit.
I mean you know, we’re 31 through 33 years old, there’s some stuff
that’s not that easy to do if you’re not use to it. When 18 years
old you’re spastic enough that its easy.
FB: Its like skateboarding if you quit doing it and try to do it again,
it screws you up.
Karl: Yeah, thats the thing. The way we play music it is almost like a sport
hting in a way. That’s something I think thats rad about punk rock as
opposed to pop music or as opposed to like a lot of music, at least its physical.
FB: Do you have any plans in the works for any kind of home video type
thing?
Karl: Odd that you should ask that. Yeah we are. We filmed a lot of the Whiskey
shows, we did seven shows there. What was that a month ago?
Milo: October 8th through...
Karl: Yeah somewhere in there, thats going to be a Descendents live thing. Then
I’m working on a documentary, a full length documentary.
Milo: Its actually a rockumentary.
FB: It will cover the entire span of the band?
Karl: Yeah, yeah. I don’t know whats coming up but its still in the early
stages. We’ve got enough live footage to choke a hog though.
FB: Do you have early live footage?
Milo: Yeah, like super 8 or somehthing.
Karl: Thats what I’m thinking. I’m gonna go digging. We’ve
never compiled an archive of the stuff we have.
FB: Have you ever seen the Minor Threat home video? The first clip is
so grainy, its a great video though.
Karl: Yeah I want to do all the weird footage I could possibly get. A video
was made for “Coolidge” back when the record was released and was
never completed in time for release. And I managed to track down the one existing
copy of it. It freaked me out ‘cause like we never even saw it! (laughter)
That’s a mysterious thing, we never even saw it.
Milo: I can’t even remember why it never, it just kind of just never got
finished.
Karl: Yeah, never got finished or some damn thing.
FB: We saw your new video a few times. (I’m The One)
Karl: The happy sperm video?
FB: Yeah. Was that pretty crazy to make?
Milo: The bouncing skateboarding sperm.
Karl: Yeah, that was fun.
Milo: I had a lot of fun doing it. It’s funny, I don’t really watch
MTV at all so I don’t really...
Karl: And you get the rare sight of him on a stick. (laughs)
Milo: Hey man I used to skateboard. Years and years ago.
Karl: I know, I know.
Milo: I had a Black Knight.
Karl: You guys are too young to remember Black Knights. They had clay and a
wood, and it was like rollerskates or something. There was like no shock absorption
whatsoever, you hit a cigarette butt you’d go flying. (Bill enters the
room)
Milo: (to Bill) Have a seat we’re doing an interview.
Bill: I want to go to sleep.
Karl: That’s like the most primitive form of skateboard.
Milo: If you don’t have a seat we’re gonna say nasty things about
you. (Bill starts talking about where to sleep)
Milo: Our van broke down so we don’t have any place to sleep tonight.
Bill: I wanna just go beat my weenie and go to sleep. Instead I have to hang
out here where all the cigarette smoke is.
FB: What have your crowds been like? Are they a mixture of older guys
from way back when and a bunch of kids that haven’t had a chance to see
you yet?
Milo: It’s just a mixture, yeah. There’s a fair amount of them who
are actually All fans. They’re All fans as such they’re likely to
be Descendents fans as well. And then there’s a fair number of people
who are old Descendents fans that are coming out of the wood work, you know,
who haven’t really checked out the scene in the last twenty years. It’s
like, “Whoa, OK I’ll come see those guys”. And there’s
maybe some newer fans who just kind of discovered us via the current whatever
trend thing that's happening. So it’s a mix and we welcome them.
Karl: Well you can’t stop ‘em. I mean set someone at the door, “No
you can’t come in here”.
Milo: “You’re not cool!”
FB: Here’s a question about a movie that had one of your songs
in it.
Milo: Pump Up The Volume.
FB: Yeah that’s the one. Did you guys get any royalties for that?
Milo: I don’t know Bill what do you think?
Bill: I got a little bit, it’s a little song. But it’s about a big
cock.
Milo: No but see I thought that song was so short that they could use, that
they could say it was a...I thought it was so short that they could classify
it as like a sound bite.
Bill: They probably can.
Milo: If you could classify something like that as sound bite you don’t
even end up paying royalties.
Karl: Yeah the song “All” flat out could be a sound bite. It’s
short enough.
Bill: What’s a sound bite? Why do they call it a sound bite? It’s
like you can steal a little bit of shit but you can’t but you can’t
steal it all.
FB: I know All has played in Europe and you’re heading over there
as the Descendents, will this be the first time for that?
Milo: Yeah.
Bill: Yeah but our bus over there is not broken.
Milo: Which is a distinct advantage, in fact we’re really looking forward
to Europe at this point.
Bill: I’m not happy man!
FB: (to Bill) What was it like to be in Black Flag?
Bill: It was just like a normal band.
FB: A friend of mine saw them in Topeka, I forget what year it was,
but he said it was some crazy shit.
Bill: Was that the one where we fucked that Indian broad? Is that what you’re
talking about? (laughter) No, I wouldn’t know anything about that, I’m
not sure. Honestly I don’t ever remember playing Topeka, I just made that
up off the top of my head. I don’t think we ever went there when I was
in the band. Maybe we did though, who knows? Topeka’s awful small isn’t
it? Who was there to see somebody in Topeka, would there be people there?
FB: Back in the early 80’s they use to have punk shows there.
Bill: Did they? Maybe we went there. I don’t remember. I remember we went
to Oklahoma a few times. I remember we played in—I don’t fuckin’
know. (laughter) We played the same fuckin’ clubs for like three years,
so I don’t know. I lose track. Plus my bunk’s broken mister tape
machine listener.
Karl: It’s a print medium, so it’s a reader.
Bill: Mister magazine reader, Bill’s bunk is broken!
FB: Final question, give us your future plans? We know about the video
and touring.
Milo: Fix the van. We’re just gonna tour all next year. We’re gonna
be going to Europe, we’re gonna be going to Japan, Australia, basically
any where that’ll take us. Any where we can go we’ll probably go.
As far as the All/Descendents thing probably All will be putting out a record
next year, Descendents maybe putting out another record after that. It’s
kinda hard to think that far in the future but I’ve been having fun doing
it so I’d like to keep doing it.
Karl: And currently Chad is working on a country music project called Drag The
River.
Milo: Is that the name?
Karl: Yeah.
FB: The next All album is going to be on Epitaph?
Karl: Yeah. We’re with them pretty much as long as they’ll have
us. We’re pretty much going for that attitude now, we’re pretty
loose.
FB: One final question, what’s the most requested song?
Milo: It really varies, we get all sorts of different requests.
Karl: “Loser”, people scream “Loser” all the time. They
might just be calling us losers and we don’t know.
Milo: That’s true. That’s the one that’s imprinted in the
back of our brains, we play that one every show. It’s like if we don’t
play that one the kids beat us up after the show. Which since we are losers
that seems fitting some how.
selected discography
Ride The Wild/ It’s a Hectic World 7” 1978
Bonus Fat EP 1980 SST Records
Milo Goes To College 1983 SST
I Don’t Want To Grow Up 1985 SST
Enjoy 1986 SST
All 1987 SST
Liveage 1988 SST
Hallraker 1988 SST
Somery 1991 SST
Everything Sucks 1996 Epitaph
* See also ALL *
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